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作者: padfoot 时间: 2004-4-18 00:00 标题: just some thoughts

[center]i'm new, i'm not a musician, and compare to most of you here i'm certainly not a david tao expert. but i think i definitely deserve the title of a loyal fan, or, as i always prefered, a faithful supporter. so perhaps i have the right to say something here.

personally, dave's music brings me this very unique feeling, which i'm yet unable to find in few other musician's music. i think that through his music, dave's trying to communicate and express to us, who would have even the slightest interest, the way that he deals with his life, his problems, and perhaps loads other things that's been happening around him. i was so amazed that someone could be so willing to open up and reveal some very intimate thoughts and feelings; i could classify it as "showing off", but i couldn't help but being touched by dave's ability and courage, because i always considered sharing and winning people's trust 2 great gifts. so when i listen to him i'm kind of like hearing a friend out, and his music has this power to move me and make me care about what the stories' been telling me. i dont know where this power comes from, maybe dave was born an excellent story teller, and in that case he's definitely mastered the best way of making his stories to reach to people's hearts, by using one of the strongest weapons known to mankind -- music (he really has! when have we seen him using long and complicated words?). but sometimes i guess it's his character that's shining through, his music is soaked with his attitude, which, strangely enough, gave him the charm, made him a real and funny guy, a true and lively musician, instead of a celebrity figure.

sometimes i think that dave's music is full of contrasting characteristics. for one second we see a perfect gentleman who's got his heart broken by this absolutely beautiful lady and he's singing about the good old days and how he misses her; or he would bring us a cocktail of flowers, candle light dinners, romantic dates or even marriage, decorated with that dry sense of humour, that warming smile, and that annoyingly sexy atmosphere. he's mature and sensible, and yet sensitive and gentle; he left us ladies frowning and moaning (some may be screaming) "oh he's SO GORGEOUS!" and we simply cant lay a finger on him. then all of a sudden, he became this teenage skater boy in baggy clothes, a condom hat, chewing a gum and always wearing this naughty but nice kind of style smile. he's a boy on his way to become a man, he sees things but he couldn't find reasons or solutions, he loves playing hardly and dangerously but his heart is dependant and he kept searching for that "right thing". he's all about sarcasm, he teases the people who he cares the most, and he's got this girl who could always make him laugh, she's crazy about hip hop and rock & roll just like him... i love both of them, because they're both david. i guess most of us have more than just one "self" inside and sometimes we fight with ourselves inwardly. dave's music told me that i'm not alone, when i'm happy or sad, when i laugh or when i cry with enormous rage, when i'm proud of myself or wanting to kick myself, when i knew i could bear with it or when i felt like i couldn't survive... i knew there must be someone out there who cares, just as i cared for david and his music (i blushed when i typed this, talking about caring for him, i'd never really dont anything for dave :P maybe i should start some kind of a DT fan club here in england).

i know this isn't really about dave's music, but it's about how i felt for it. i dont know if any of you would agree, but i know all of you would be able to put up with it, cos after all, we're dave's fans, and therefore we've all got that attitude, rite? i dont suppose anyone would like this piece of shit very much, but i wish some of you would at least read it, and i shall be greatful ^Q^

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作者: bidaonan37 时间: 2004-4-19 00:00

楼主是外国人啊？？
厉害，我看不懂

作者: padfoot 时间: 2004-4-19 00:00

the glorious easter holidays are gone and i'm back and locked in school again. the PCs here are so stupid that now i'm not only unable to write in chinese, but also unable to read chinese! 555! i can't keep up to you guys!

作者: marycatss 时间: 2004-4-19 00:00

to padfoot:
I can understand you!!I wonder if David Tao have been to London?How long did you know him or his music?I guess you are a pritty girl with deep sense and love!!terrific!!
keep in touch!!

作者: padfoot 时间: 2004-4-20 00:00

to marycatss,
so are you in london? with any luck, i will be starting my college life in LD by october. i pray that david will come to the UK, i'm sure his fans from all around the europe will be queing up to see him here ^Q^ and i'm glad to know that someone actually understood what i was talking about ;P

作者: 喆服了我的心 时间: 2004-4-20 00:00

像看天书样的！！

能翻怿一下吗？

作者: 猫一咪 时间: 2004-4-21 00:00

猪猪，要为精华复责任。。。

翻译

作者: 喆服了我的心 时间: 2004-4-21 00:00

快快```

翻译呀

作者: 紫色满天星 时间: 2004-4-22 00:00

欺负偶的英语破！

作者: tctf 时间: 2004-4-22 00:00

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作者: padfoot 时间: 2004-4-22 00:00

sorry guys, but as i indicated very clearly before, i'm unable to read and type in chinese here, so please be considerate. i'm sure some of you must be able to translate this piece of in-fact-very-simple article. or maybe you should consult david, his english is good

作者: 校长 时间: 2004-4-24 00:00

引用:

以下是引用猫一咪在2004-4-21 13:41:46的发言：
猪猪，要为精华复责任。。。翻译

对~偶不想查字典|||||

作者: cassell 时间: 2004-4-25 00:00

It is ok that you write this in English. In fact some thoughts involving love and affection can not be well expressed in one language, so we resort to another language to make our feeling fully exposed. I am glad u will go to England. I am sure David will have concert there. London is also a center for pop music. Years ago Harlem Yu had MTV unplugged live there, the first unplugged live concert of an chinese musician. I am sure David will be the 2nd and the best!!!!!

作者: M一M 时间: 2004-4-27 00:00

虽然我看不大懂，但是还是顶啊[em00]

作者: sandsBYgone 时间: 2004-9-7 07:31

翻译：
题目：只是一点想法
我是一个新人，我不是个音乐人，并且和大多数在这的你们相比我肯定不是了解陶喆的专家。（事实上也没人是啊－－译者按，呵呵）但我认为我不容置疑地应该可以得到忠诚地歌迷的称号，或者，就像我一直喜欢的叫法，“一个虔诚的支持者”。所以也许我有权在这里说点什么。
就我个人而言，陶喆的音乐带给我那种不能在其他音乐人的音乐中找到的独一无二的感受。我想贯穿于他的音乐之中，陶喆试着与我们交流与沟通，甚至是那些最微小的兴趣，以及他处理他的生活、他遇到的问题、或者是负担的其他发生在他身上的事情的方式。我非常惊讶会有人这样愿意敞开自己并表露一些内心最深处的想法和感受；我可以将此归为一种“炫耀”，但我不禁被陶喆的这种才能和勇气所感动，因为我一直认为“分享”和“取胜”是人们期望的两种才能。所以当我聆听他时我感觉就像在倾听一个朋友，而且他的音乐有能打动我并让我认真去感受歌曲告诉我的故事的力量。我不知道这种力量从何而来，也许陶喆生来就是个出色的讲故事的行家，而在这方面他勿庸置疑精通最好的方式去使他的故事触及人们的心灵，用人们所了解的最强大的武器之一——音乐（他的确做到了！我们什么时候看到他用冗长而复杂的话语？）但是有时我猜想这是他的性格的发光点，他的态度渗透在他的音乐里，足够杰出，赋予他魅力，使他成为一个真实而风趣的男人，一个真诚而才华焕发的音乐人，而不是徒有一个名人的身份。
有时候我认为陶喆的音乐充满了反差的特性，我们看到一个完美的绅士被一个非常美丽的女人伤了心，十有八九他会歌唱着过去美好的时光和多么想念着她；或者他将会带给我们鲜花鸡尾酒，烛光晚餐，浪漫的约会或甚至是结婚，用那种干巴巴的幽默来修饰，那种热情的微笑，和惹人讨厌的诱惑的基调。他是成熟的和明智的，敏感的和优雅的；他让我们这些女士们皱眉和沉吟（有一些没准尖叫）：“喔，他是那么的才华横溢！” 我们都无法找出他的缺点。之后他一下子变成了这个穿着宽松衣服的十几岁的滑冰男孩，一个棒球帽，嚼着口香糖并且一直带着这种顽皮但是善意的微笑。他是以他自己的方式成为一个男人的男孩，他关注事情但他找不到原因或解决方法，他喜欢玩味有难度的和危险的东西但他的心是依赖别人的，他一直在寻找“真实的东西”，他讥讽、嘲弄他关注最多的人，而且他已经得到了这个总是能让他大笑的女孩，她为hip hop和摇滚痴狂，就像他一样…… 他们两个我都爱，因为他们都是陶喆。我猜大多数的我们在内心里不止有一个自己，有时我们会和内心的另一个自己打架。陶喆的音乐告诉我我并不孤独，当我开心和伤心时，当我大笑或痛哭时，当我自豪或是想打自己时，当我知道自己可以承受或是当我感到我不能活下去时…… 我知道一定有人会在乎，就像我在乎陶喆和他的音乐一样(当我打这些字的时候我很惭愧, 讲着我在乎他, 可我从未为他做些什么:P 也许我应该在英国为陶喆开个像这里一样的网站).
我知道这些不是真的有关陶喆的音乐，但是这是我的感受。我不知道有没有人会同意我所说的，但是我知道你们所有人会将自己所想放到这里来，因为毕竟，我们都是陶喆的歌迷，并且我们都有这种态度，对吗？我并不认为会有谁喜欢这篇文字，但我希望至少你们一些人读一读它，我就很高兴了。：）

（译者在此谈谈自己的想法。这个作者的前两段写得很不错，但我越往后看越糊涂，不知道她到底要说什么了。我尽量翻译得准确却发现很难明白她到底要表达什么，居然里边还出现了“避孕套”这个英文单词。详见原文“滑冰男孩”“戴帽子”那段，a condom hat，不知是她拼写错误还是我孤陋寡闻，不知那个词还有什么别的意思。
我想有时候我们写东西也会犯这种毛病，写着写着就词不达本意了，更何况是用非母语英文～～呵呵，不过作者喜爱david的心情还是可以体会的……但我还是不明白那段有关david已经得到女孩的那段到底在说什么？……汗……）

作者: dapromise 时间: 2004-9-8 23:17

哇翻譯厲害!!

hiyaa!! dude, i totally agree with what you're saying. no sh!t lah.. this is good! i've never actually met someone who could explain the way they felt for david.. in english :) and i'm glad i've finally met one. and i guess your writing explains a lot about the way i feel about david, too, more or less. seems like something i've never comprehended (why i like him, that is). o, and if he does go to london, make sure you go to his concert, take pictures and post them here! :P

tao forever~

ps. who's the girl david's with that you're referring to?

作者: Revit 时间: 2004-9-9 00:08

靠~~~~都说英语啊......惹毛了~俺就说家乡话!!你们一个都听不懂~~
呵呵挖哈哈~

作者: tangerina 时间: 2004-9-9 05:00

hey padfoot, glad to see u here in davidcn,

you've been really courageous too by sharing your intimate thoughts & feelings with the rest of us which i'm sure one who've read and understood would've applaud for it. I was much feeling the same as you but perhaps not as in depth as you've triggered alots of my thoughts with the stuff you've covered here. I don't have the flair for writtings, as much as i wanted to have, it's kinda difficult for me to express it out in words and in this aspect but i'm glad you've done it wonderfully well and in English and have people like me reading it, sharing the same sentiments, you don't know how great it feels. But ya know, i always felt the biggest reward i've gain from David is when i started to look inwardly within myself and recognized that fact of my existence whenever i'm in that self-denial state. As people had said the biggest fear is none other but fear in yourself, David's music gave me that strength to face that true self. He has been really encouraging with what he had said "If you've a dream, runaway go for it!", or is it that he sung in that 22 song, "when you realised you could be waiting in vain, you could begin that journey to your dream even with you alone." That's how inspiriting he is.

作者: tangerina 时间: 2004-9-9 05:01

Btw padfoot, have seen you ard in our English forum before but not anymore, maybe you're busy with stuff but glad that you're still in touch with DT music. Hope that you'll drop by the forum often coz i think you've lotsa of thoughts to share, in fact was hoping if you'll re-post this thread over at the English forum too? i'm sure they'll be wanting to read those too.

作者: Revit 时间: 2004-9-11 02:16

挖靠~~~~还说~~我真滴要说家乡话了波~~

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